Oldies but goodies


  1. CNN.com readers submit 3,000+ WTC proposals.

  2. Paul Krugman’s article The China Syndrome elicited quite a response Fox News’ Neil Cavuto.

Do you want to know what makes me hate Americans? That Fox News is the most-watched cable news network. Back in April, when the war in Iraq was in full swing, Fox News dominated the rankings with 14 of the top 15 cable shows. No wonder our policies are so fucked up when most people get their news from Bill O’Reilly’s “No Spin Zone”. Some O’Reilly gems:

(Feb 26 2003) “Once the war against Saddam Hussein begins, we expect every American to support our military, and if you can’t do that, just shut up.

“Americans, and indeed our foreign allies who actively work against our military once the war is underway, will be considered enemies of the state by me.

“Just fair warning to you, Barbra Streisand and others who see the world as you do. I don’t want to demonize anyone, but anyone who hurts this country in a time like this, well. Let’s just say you will be spotlighted.

“Talking points invites all points of view and believes vigorous debate strengthens the country, but once decisions have been made and lives are on the line, patriotism must be factored in.

“This does not give the government carte blanche to do anything, but it does give the government the benefit of the doubt at least until that benefit is proven wrong as it was in Vietnam.”

(Feb 01 2003) [O’Reilly is interviewing Jeremy Glick, a member of Not in Our Name whose father died in the WTC on 9/11.]

O’REILLY: You are mouthing a far left position that is a marginal position in this society, which you’re entitled to.

GLICK: It’s marginal—right.

O’REILLY: You’re entitled to it, all right, but you’re—you see, even—I’m sure your beliefs are sincere, but what upsets me is I don’t think your father would be approving of this.

GLICK: Well, actually, my father thought that Bush’s presidency was illegitimate.

O’REILLY: Maybe he did, but…

GLICK: I also didn’t think that Bush…

O’REILLY: ... I don’t think he’d be equating this country as a terrorist nation as you are.

GLICK: Well, I wasn’t saying that it was necessarily like that.

O’REILLY: Yes, you are. You signed…

GLICK: What I’m saying is…

O’REILLY: ... this, and that absolutely said that.

GLICK: ... is that in—six months before the Soviet invasion in Afghanistan, starting in the Carter administration and continuing and escalating while Bush’s father was head of the CIA, we recruited a hundred thousand radical mujahadeens to combat a democratic government in Afghanistan, the Turaki government.

O’REILLY: All right. I don’t want to…

GLICK: Maybe…

O’REILLY: I don’t want to debate world politics with you.

GLICK: Well, why not? This is about world politics.

O’REILLY: Because, No. 1, I don’t really care what you think.

GLICK: Well, OK.

O’REILLY: You’re—I want to…

GLICK: But you do care because you…

O’REILLY: No, no. Look…

GLICK: The reason why you care is because you evoke 9/11…

O’REILLY: Here’s why I care.

GLICK: ... to rationalize…

O’REILLY: Here’s why I care…

GLICK: Let me finish. You evoke 9/11 to rationalize everything from domestic plunder to imperialistic aggression worldwide.

O’REILLY: OK. That’s a bunch…

GLICK: You evoke sympathy with the 9/11 families.

O’REILLY: That’s a bunch of crap. I’ve done more for the 9/11 families by their own admission—I’ve done more for them than you will ever hope to do.

GLICK: OK.

O’REILLY: So you keep your mouth shut when you sit here exploiting those people.

GLICK: Well, you’re not representing me. You’re not representing me.

O’REILLY: And I’d never represent you. You know why?

GLICK: Why?

O’REILLY: Because you have a warped view of this world and a warped view of this country.

GLICK: Well, explain that. Let me give you an example of a parallel…

O’REILLY: No, I’m not going to debate this with you, all right.

GLICK: Well, let me give you an example of parallel experience. On September 14…

O’REILLY: No, no. Here’s—here’s the…

GLICK: On September 14…

O’REILLY: Here’s the record.

GLICK: OK.

O’REILLY: All right. You didn’t support the action against Afghanistan to remove the Taliban. You were against it, OK.

GLICK: Why would I want to brutalize and further punish the people in Afghanistan…

O’REILLY: Who killed your father!

GLICK: The people in Afghanistan…

O’REILLY: Who killed your father.

GLICK: ... didn’t kill my father.

O’REILLY: Sure they did. The al Qaeda people were trained there.

GLICK: The al Qaeda people? What about the Afghan people?

O’REILLY: See, I’m more angry about it than you are!

GLICK: So what about George Bush?

O’REILLY: What about George Bush? He had nothing to do with it.

GLICK: The director—senior as director of the CIA.

O’REILLY: He had nothing to do with it.

GLICK: So the people that trained a hundred thousand Mujahadeen who were…

O’REILLY: Man, I hope your mom isn’t watching this.

GLICK: Well, I hope she is.

O’REILLY: I hope your mother is not watching this because you—that’s it. I’m not going to say anymore.

GLICK: OK.

O’REILLY: In respect for your father…

GLICK: On September 14, do you want to know what I’m doing?

O’REILLY: Shut up! Shut up!

GLICK: Oh, please don’t tell me to shut up.

O’REILLY: As respect—as respect—in respect for your father, who was a Port Authority worker, a fine American, who got killed unnecessarily by barbarians…

GLICK: By radical extremists who were trained by this government…

O’REILLY: Out of respect for him…

GLICK: ... not the people of America.

O’REILLY: ... I’m not going to…

GLICK: ... The people of the ruling class, the small minority.

O’REILLY: Cut his mic. I’m not going to dress you down anymore, out of respect for your father.

We will be back in a moment with more of THE FACTOR.

GLICK: That means we’re done?

O’REILLY: We’re done.

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